[jnbiche]

I strongly disagree, but I respect that we're on the same side here, so I'll very carefully consider your logic. But in return, I'd ask you to carefully consider my argument, which is that we need to know the current damage right now far more than we need allies in the Senate IC in the future.

[DannyBee]

Unless americans are willing to do anything abuot it, which, so far, they haven't been, what more do you need to know right now?

As a country, we have already made clear that the majority are okay with roughly anything that is justified on the alter of terrorism.

Do you really think there is something they can reveal that will change this?

If so, what is it? IE What do you think is the galvanizing thing they could ever reveal that would make the tradeoff you suggest worth it.

[argumentum]

If what they can give us "right now" won't win us the war, we lose a valuable resource to win the war over the long term. Afaik, these are two of the few principled people with power in the legislature .. let's give them the benefit of the doubt.

[SimHacker]

Just assume the worst. That's as close as you can possibly get to knowing everything right now for sure.

I just hope that Snowden thought to take a copy of Clapper's (any anyone else responsible's) internet browsing history, or at least is creative enough to forge some terrible blackmail material and leak it, just to do to them what they're doing to us.