[tptacek]

Wow does this ever miss the point. It's not that nobody is willing to drive to Hayward. It's not that Hayward is on the moon. It's not that nobody would go to Hayward to get on the Hyperloop. Millions would.

The point is that the transit time from SF to Hayward is part of the SF/LA transit time. That's all.

[dnautics]

So if I'm in mountain view, what is the differential (public) transit time to the HSR termini/stations in Bay area, versus Hayward? How about Berkeley? Vallejo? I guess part of my point also that I'm not articulating well, is that if you're not on the HSR line (which most of the bay area isn't) you have to spend non-zero time commuting to the HSR station, too. Even if you are relatively close, say, cupertino or mountain view (closest stations: Palo Alto or San Jose) there is a commuting time-cost, too.

[tptacek]

The comparison is LA/SF. It would also be cheaper for the Hyperloop to go to Death Valley, and would serve any nearby residents of Death Valley well.

[dnautics]

I'm guessing you don't live in california, do you?

edit: Oh, I think you're sort of a mentor figure to one of my friends from kindergarten (and a board member of my startup nonprofit...) HN isn't really the best venue for a nuanced discussion, if you'd like to talk about the problems with CHSR and why comparing Hyperloop to CHSR official figures is charitable to CHSR - feel free to contact me personally!

[tptacek]

Wait, what? I'm on a board?

[dnautics]

no, my friend is on the board, I believe he used to work for you.