[thecodeore]

Why is that the every statist I encounter always believe those that want to live a life free of coercion and institutionalized violence must be a teen?

I am more than likely your Senior, it is infact youth that believes that government is required for a functional society, that government some how makes society better with age comes the wisdom to understand the true evil of government

>That said, there are a number of externalities that you're not thinking of. The simplest is: without a government, what's to stop someone from walking into your house and killing you? Every incentive says they should: free money, no consequences.

Watch this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbNFJK1ZpVg

[sophacles]

Its not that they are statists. Its that you present everything in hyperbolic absurdities. You want to make everything you do voluntary yet think that it will somehow lead to a world where everything is rainbows and unicorns, because like a teen you refuse to accept the world doesn't give a shit about you, nor does everyone think or act as you pretend you would in such a fantasy land

[thecodeore]

Statism is the belief that a government should control either economic or social policy, or both, to some degree. Statism is believe the state should exist, any person that support the state, even a minimal state is a Statist.

>You want to make everything you do voluntary yet think that it will somehow lead to a world where everything is rainbows and unicorns,

Not at all, infact it is statists that believe in Utopia, believe that if they use "just enough violence" they can force everyone to behave as they want.

[sophacles]

1. Stop being stupid. You know I didn't declare people to not be statists but instead declared that statism snt what made them think you are a teenager. The disingenuous way you used my reply to grandstand is a great teenage doucher move tho.

2. Can you provide the slightest evidence that what you advocate turns out any way other than somalia? By this I mean actual historical evidence... not hour wishful thinking or ranting about force and violence. Evidence is not the same as you letting out your opression fetish. No one cares how you get off, we just want evidence of your idiotic claims.