[seanmcdirmid]

Wikipedia works just fine, it's not blocked by the GFW, even the Chinese version. Wikemedia is blocked on some networks (like CMCC), so you might not get images, and of course, some pages are blocked. Https may or may not be blocked depending in the ISP, and if it isn't blocked you can access any page you want.

China is 100 times worse than the USA on freedom and censorship, whatever you guys are complaining about over there, don't get the wrong impression that it is even close to what we get here. I'm neither for attacking or appeasing china on censorship. Frankly, there is enough internal pressure that change is inevitable, they'll deal.

[jedbrown]

> Wikipedia works just fine, it's not blocked by the GFW

This is not true. It varies on time and place, but it is usually blocked in at least some regions. It's currently blocked [1] in Beijing and Inner Mongolia. It was blocked when I was in Jilin Province two weeks ago. During that visit, it was hit-or-miss whether my Digital Ocean mail server was reachable.

[1] http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/index.php?siteurl=zh.wik... (same for en.wikipedia.org)

[seanmcdirmid]

It is not blocked fully in Beijing by any ISP I use. I'm using it right now in bed and VPN is completely disabled.

The other link you gave me is blocked, though. So is Wikipedia https. Zh.wikipedia is blocked also (not any other Lang though). Zh does work on my phone though (china Unicom).

It's complicated, even beijing doesn't have a single GFW.

[seanmcdirmid]

I just checked on CMCC. zh.wikipedia.com works well enough, with the caveat that https and wikimedia are blocked (so no secure page access, and no pictures). At home, which I think is China Telecom, zh is blocked, but not wikimedia (so I can see pictures).