[MrKurtz]

If you are seriously suggesting that abandoning the US market is a realistic option, especially for a multibillion dollar corporation, then you are (and I'm not using this word lightly) an idiot.

Not to mention that there is no US equivalent to the rampant human rights violations and censorship in China.

[pinchyfingers]

The US certainly has many more prisoners per capita and in total than China does.

Also, the U.S. government is censoring Ladar Levison of Lavabit and others in his situation.

I've never been to China to see anything for myself, so I won't make further comparison, but prison state thing definitely bothers me.

[cmccabe]

I've never been to China to see anything for myself...

Yep, I can tell. I can tell you haven't read about it either.

[LinXitoW]

Numbers, facts, anything. Please substantiate your comment, instead of adding nothing but snark to the discussion. Here, i'll start: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/world/americas/23iht-23pri...

[reedlaw]

Censorship and monitoring are a given in China. The US was supposedly a bastion of freedom with a long history of protecting individual rights.

[Draiken]

I'd say that's exactly what they want everyone to think.

Of course we see more violations in china, but who's to say you don't have 10 times more of that from the US?

Just because they don't do it to US citizens (in most cases) it doesn't mean they don't do it.

Believing the other side is worse just cause you "see" more of that stuff, ends up being just blissful ignorance. Every party has it's faults and I have no doubt in my mind that the US has the most.

But we shouldn't worry... that's all to "protect the american citizens from terrorism" :D

[cenhyperion]

>Not to mention that there is no US equivalent to the rampant human rights violations and censorship in China.

So that makes it okay for them to systematically spy on their own citizens and violate their own constitution?

Saying "this country is worse" doesn't make it okay in the US.

Bad logic.

[quasque]

There are plenty of human rights violations that the US commits as a matter of policy, due to its "War on Terror" - drone strikes and Guantanamo Bay are two major ones.

[krichman]

The US violates human rights and then pretends that they don't, because "waterboarding isn't torture".

[madaxe]

Yup. Tax benefits of being in the us are huge. Easy to bribe politicians, no corporate income tax, huge rebates.

As to the US market - meh. The US is third world in terms of purchasing power. Only reason to base there is the pro-corporate corruption.