[inDigiNeous]

Am I the only one who is f*cking tired of FBI and other violence based organizations using pedophilia as their excuse to raid and bust people ?

Think of the children! Yes .. a good front to make it so that they can just bust anything using SWAT forces.

Is pedophilia such a big problem? Really ? I would like to see one study about pedophilia and the problems it creates, instead of what the problems that NSA and FBI are facing when people start encrypting their traffic and we actually have some freedom of speech in some areas.

[gts]

Yes, paedophilia really is such a Big problem; you want to see a study to understand that? are you serious? further to police efforts I would support any independent effort to get these people and hand them over to the police when it comes to this matter.

Paedos will be paedos no matter whether privacy exists or does not exist, and it is not an issue related to privacy and freedom, do not link it as such; freedom ceases to be freedom when it violates another individual's freedom(=abuse or product of abuse) so the abuser has to be stopped from further violating it. As the previous poster said, you could argue around consent and/or having an inclination, but as to the actual abuse taking place there can be no question about it.

In a truly anonymous internet that respects privacy, it would be up to individuals to find, isolate and condemn these people, much like Anonymous did in 2011.

Abuse of freedom and privacy can only lead to and justify not having any freedom and privacy, it fuels the whole pro Big Brother argument; if there was a way to demonstrate that Internet self regulation/regulation by the people works, then this would be a major blow to all kinds of 'higher authority' monitoring and fear mongering.

[abrichr]

...perhaps you could argue that there's nothing wrong with pedophilia per se, but there is definitely something wrong with child abuse, and I shouldn't need to link you to a study to convince you of that.

By shutting down child pornography rings, police are preventing further abuse. How else would you propose they go about it?

[tbrownaw]

By shutting down child pornography rings, police are preventing further abuse.

Maybe, maybe not. Probably in some or even many cases, but certainly not all.

But, it also provides an unquestionable excuse to not care about "accidental" overreach or collateral damage. Someone's hosting something they don't like on a shared server? Guess what happens when they "discover" kiddie porn hosted by someone else on that same server?

[bobbydavid]

Human trafficking. Yes, this actually happens, both around the world and in America.

The argument I've heard is that a frictionless child pornography market effects an increased financial incentive to traffic children.

[sillysaurus]

I think this type of thread is what tptacek meant by "these threads [that question whether CP is a big deal] are always repellant." I must say, this one certainly is.

I encourage everyone to chill out, leave your emotions at the door, and give the topic a thorough and dispassionate treatment.

"I'm fucking tired of X" is an unreasonable way to conduct ourselves. It's a sure way not to change anyone's opinion.