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by sirwanqutbi 4711 days ago
Meh, we had to learn Pascal here in the UK (2005). In my opinion, learning C++ early on is better than jumping on a bandwagon language like PHP, and expect to learn JavaScript with relative ease.

I agree with Kohanz & API ... outsourcing companies throw peanuts at developers and expect quality code.
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EliRivers 4711 days ago
The problem isn't learning C++. The problem is paying a fortune to be taught some kind of franken-language from two decades ago in the belief that it's what employers mean when they say "C++" on the job spec.
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sirwanqutbi 4711 days ago
What, who pays a fortune ? .. most indian developers are self-taught geeks who pick stuff up easily. C++ is the mother of all modern languages and I suspect job specification that mention "C++" is an indication of that.

With that I've noticed Indian developers work with much more languages than a developer here, who 'focuses' or 'specialises' on one or two languages/code stacks.

My only conclusion to the notion that outsourced jobs yield low quality code is that companies DO NOT PAY ENOUGH. Pay more and you get better project management, better project scope, and future proof code.

In the 21st century sweatshop workers should not exist ! that goes for the IT industry too.

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EliRivers 4711 days ago
most indian developers are self-taught geeks who pick stuff up easily.

I believe that to be just plain wrong. I suspect you're taking a small sample of people and extrapolating that. India contains a great many universities and technical colleges teaching people programming. These places charge money.

I see this blindness a lot here on HN; HN is a small group of motivated technologists. The majority of the world's programmers don't read HN. They don't read programming books. They don't think about other programming languages. They don't learn new things by themselves.

C++ is the mother of all modern languages and I suspect job specification that mention "C++" is an indication of that.

This also is simply incorrect. I see a vast number of job specs without C++ on them. If C++ is being put on job specs just because it's "the mother of all modern languages", whatever that means (and how exactly is C++ the mother of modern C, Objective-C, Ruby, PHP, Perl and a whope bunch of other languages?), do the job specs without C++ on them come from some other universe where C++ doesn't exist? No. They come from jobs where C++ isn't required.

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