[spacelizard]

I don't see the point of changing to a more permissive license just to get on the iOS and WP8 app stores. Those devices are all compromised to begin with.

[e1ven]

When trying to create a secure network, you're constantly going to be dealing with tradeoffs between enabling communication, and ensuring you can actually talk with people.

You're right that iOS isn't a completely secure OS.. But using a secure app on iOS is better than using regular SMS going through AT&T.

Perfect is very difficult to achieve here- Most PCs have nonfree a BIOS, and even then, many CPUs can be updated by encrypted updates from the manufacturer.

It very well might be possible to ensure that your machine isn't vulnerable... But you're not going to have many people to talk to.

I think the tradeoff for having an iOS app is worth it. It puts the users of the iOS app (and those talking to them) a bit more at risk, but doesn't compromise the whole network.

Let them make that tradeoff. It's better than talking to an empty room.

[zokier]

False sense of security can be even more dangerous.

[graue]

Network effects. Even if my friends' iPhones are "compromised", if I can get them using the same messaging protocol, then that messaging protocol is more useful on my "non-compromised" device.

If we went with your way of thinking, most of my friends would never use Tox, thus making it useless to me, thus meaning I'd have to use a non-end-to-end-encrypted messaging protocol such as SMS or Facebook Chat.

[jaekwon]

Source?

I use a mac, and if it's compromised, I'd like to stop using it.