[northwest]

Technical solutions may help to combat the issue, but imagine a society where

- you're not judged for seeking help (maybe even applauded or even rewarded?)

- everybody receives complete information about how to get help

- everybody is socially integrated (called "social life") and therefor gets feedback on his/her behavior (and thus gets a hint on when it's time to correct an issue)

[Wingman4l7]

> everybody is socially integrated (called "social life") and therefor gets feedback on his/her behavior (and thus gets a hint on when it's time to correct an issue)

That sounds horrifying.

[DanBC]

Paedophiles are often socially isolated; hated by society. They only speak to other offenders.

This means that they can start to have thoughts about offending behaviour which are reinforced by other offenders.

If paedophiles had access to non-sex-offenders to talk to they'd get early nudges about how unacceptable their thoughts are, and guidance about avoiding those thoughts and behaviours.

I'm not sure how the "friendship circles" worked out. Maybe they were hopeless? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/3873083.stm)

[anonymoushn]

Saying that paedophiles often only speak to other offenders suggests that paedophilia is a crime. It could be better to make a distinction between people of certain sexual orientation and people who commit certain crimes, unless you believe that these two groups of people intersect completely.

I have not encountered any evidence that a certain treatment or social surrounds can change a person's sexual orientation, so avoiding unacceptable thoughts may be impossible for these people. Avoiding unacceptable behaviors is certainly achievable, though.

[motters]

That might be an unrealistic psychological profile. Jimmy Saville and Stuart Hall had abundant access to the views of non-sex-offenders. Both those figures could hardly be described as being isolated from society during the time when they were committing their crimes.

It seems to me that the types of people involved in those activities are well integrated into society, but abuse their positions of trust.

[johnchristopher]

> Paedophiles are often socially isolated; hated by society. They only speak to other offenders. > > This means that they can start to have thoughts about offending behaviour which are reinforced by other offenders.

Hum. No. Moreover they can't be socially isolated and in contact with other offenders at the same time.

Are you refering to the UK scandal from months ago where it was found out that an unusual number of pedophiles were actual member of "protect-the-children" state-sponsored association ?

[taspeotis]

Alert! Alert!

Your horror does not fit the model of an ideal citizen!

Alert! Alert!

[lotsofcows]

It's an interesting thought. As long as it's based on ones interaction with others rather private behaviour.

"What a man chooses to do in the privacy of his own... attic..."

[PavlovsCat]

How is everyone having at least a bunch of friends, or even just people they know and who know them, beyond a very superficial level, "horrifying"? I didn't read that as "everybody needs to receive all the benefits of full integration into the borg matrix", myself. It's just a fact of life that nobody is an island, and to live off other people, but not with them, is not an ideal I'm ready to defend. I wouldn't call it evil but certainly "lacking". I'm all for those who actually provide everything for themselves to want to be left alone, but that doesn't apply to anyone posting on the web, sorry.. shoutouts to the Sentinelese (who I assume are rather tight knit btw)

How about "solitary like trees, together like a forest"?

[DanBC]

In theory this is aimed at doing that - people searching will be provided advice about where to go to get help, and this is a nudge for people early on who are thinking about this and just starting.

I agree that current situation doesn't seem to be working that well.