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by reaperhulk 4707 days ago
Nvidia has a long history in mobile of over-promising on performance and power consumption. Given the expected ship date of this product it would not be surprising for it to be only slightly faster (or quite possibly a bit slower) than products that will ship in the interim. See: Every single Tegra.
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This time they're completely changing the architecture, though, but Nvidia is also known for huge delays, so not sure how that will work out for them. I think Kepler was already supposed to be in Tegra 4. And now they only get one extra year to port Maxwell to Tegra 6, after they put Kepler in Tegra 5.

So I'm a little skeptical, too - but maybe not so much on the performance side (as they say, it's hugely scalable, and has OpenGL API support that is simply unmatchable by the competition over the next few years), but about power consumption.

They say it's very efficient and uses very little power, but lately Nvidia's focus has been too much on performance, and too little on power consumption. Here's a tip for you Nvidia: If your chip can't be put in a phone, don't call it a "mobile" chip.

I think that's how all mobile chip makers should think. Because at least then, they can make a very efficient chip that helps a phone last for 2 days, and for tablets they just scale up from that and overclock it or add more cores. But if they do it the other way around, they'll get greedy and want to put too much performance in it, and force OEM's to use bigger and bigger batteries (which adds to the cost, and so on). Or it forces the chip makers to fork the chip line, into a lower-end more efficient one, and a higher-end more performance oriented one, like it happened to both Nvidia and ARM.

Another tip for Nvidia: When in doubt, use the smaller process node. They failed to do that with Tegra 3, when everyone else moved early to 28/32nm, and they paid a huge price for it in the market, in both lost branding and lost customers. So next time, choose the smaller process node, even if it's more expensive. It will be worth it, because both OEM's and customers will be asking for it. So what I'm saying is Tegra 5 needs to be 20nm next year, not 28nm.

> If your chip can't be put in a phone, don't call it a "mobile" chip.

I think this is a case of semantic collision. For quite a long time "mobile graphics" meant "laptop graphics."

I suspect mtgx was talking about Tegras that were marketed for phones but have been mostly used in tablets.