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by temphn 4724 days ago
No one can "fix" Detroit because no one can even discuss the reasons why Detroit is Detroit. It's not Democrats (Seattle and the Bay Area are fine). It's not big companies (there do happen to be auto plants in other areas). It has to do with the great unmentionable taboos of modern American society.

To state why Detroit is Detroit is like saying that "Stalin was a dictator" in 1970s Russia[1]. It doesn't matter that the leaders[2] of the society acknowledged that as fact, or even that everyone knew that it was true on some level. You yourself can't state the truth about why Detroit is Detroit. Like in the 1970s USSR, you won't be shot, you will just probably lose your job and/or be forced into a public apology.

[1] http://www.volokh.com/2010/04/30/on-a-bus-in-kiev/

  I remember very little about my childhood in the Soviet 
  Union; I was only seven when I left. But one memory I have 
  is being on a bus with one of my parents, and asking 
  something about a conversation we had had at home, in which 
  Stalin and possibly Lenin were mentioned as examples of 
  dictators. My parent took me off the bus at the next stop, 
  even though it wasn’t the place we were originally going...

  What’s more, this is so even though most people, including 
  most Communists, knew that Stalin was of course a dictator. 
  The government itself had acknowledged as much. Even Lenin 
  was widely understood to have been a dictator in the sense 
  of someone who didn’t govern through democratic means.

  But it’s not the sort of thing that you’d want to say in 
  public, or even to your friends in private. Sssh! — people 
  might hear! Those who hear might draw deeper inferences 
  about what else you might believe. This might get back to 
  the place you work. You might be fired, or blacklisted. By 
  the 1970s, you probably didn’t have to worry much about 
  being shot, or being sent to Siberia; these were not the 
  1930s. But lost jobs, ruined careers — sure. And a forced 
  public apology: well, of course, that might help a bit.
[2] http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-obamas-rema...

  Now, this isn’t to say that the African-American community 
  is naive about the fact that African-American young men are 
  disproportionately involved in the criminal justice system, 
  that they are disproportionately both victims and 
  perpetrators of violence. It’s not to make excuses for that 
  fact, although black folks do interpret the reasons for 
  that in a historical context.

  We understand that some of the violence that takes place in 
  poor black neighborhoods around the country is born out of 
  a very violent past in this country, and that the poverty 
  and dysfunction that we see in those communities can be 
  traced to a very difficult history.

  And so the fact that sometimes that’s unacknowledged adds 
  to the frustration. And the fact that a lot of African-
  American boys are painted with a broad brush and the excuse 
  is given, well, there are these statistics out there that 
  show that African-American boys are more violent -- using 
  that as an excuse to then see sons treated differently 
  causes pain.

  I think the African-American community is also not naive in 
  understanding that statistically somebody like Trayvon 
  Martin was probably statistically more likely to be shot by 
  a peer than he was by somebody else.
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It's clearly not just due to black people, either, though. Atlanta has a large black population, and is a pretty decent city (it has problems, sure, but so do other places). And there are cities with largely-non-black populations which also suck in the same kind of ways as Detroit.

Any city with a massive decline in population (which was probably triggered by racial issues and bad governance in the 1960s, a time when a violent armed revolution, at least at the local level, was quite possible) is going to have problems. Detroit had a heavily union population, reflected in the government as well, so unlike mining/etc. ghost towns, the "hangover" from the massive decline in population was a lot more unsustainable (in a place like Butte, people just left when industry left).

Sure, the decline into a war zone hurt, and compounded all the initial problems, but NYC was a warzone in the 1970s/1980s too, and didn't die. LA and Miami in the 1980s/1990s. I mean, even Oakland is somewhat turning around now (largely on the strength of SFBA overall and an artificially limited housing market in SF, true, not internal improvement.)

The numbers are quite different. Detroit is 82.7% black, while Atlanta is 54% black:

http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/atlanta_ga/detroit_...

Numbers matter. Political control and on-the-ground police haven't flipped over entirely yet to Camden, NJ or Gary, IN levels.