[flyinRyan]

>Yeah, I know: it's not Javascript that's broken, it's the DOM.

No, JavaScript itself is a ridiculous language. Every time I have to deal with it I grit my teeth. Right now I'm dealing with dates. Luckily JS has a built in Date class! Which, of course, does nearly nothing. If you call "getDay" you get a zero indexed number representing the day of the week. So since there's no formatting functions to print out dates, how do you get the month-day number? Oh, right, you call getDate...

If I didn't know better I would think this abomination were created by someone who thought the secret of PHP's success was being horribly defined.

[dccoolgai]

Try this: date.toLocaleDateString("en-US", {month: "numeric", day: "numeric"});

[flyinRyan]

I want a specific format to our proprietary systems. In C# I can just say "date.Format("dd.MM.YYYY")" or what ever I want.

[dccoolgai]

Granted that's a bit tidier than doing this in JS:

var myProprietaryDateFunction = function(dt) { return dt.getDate()+'.'+dt.getMonth()+'.'+dt.getFullYear(); };

But in JS, you can pass that function around like a village bicycle -when I think back to my C# days, it makes me wonder how I ever did without functions as first class objects and a slew of other really great things about JS. A lot of those things are brainbangers at first, to be sure - but when you finally grasp them (for me, at least) you start to see that the things that make JS "ugly" to the novice are the same things that make it powerful and elegant in the hands of a master. To each his own - and there are things I do really miss about C# from time to time... but for me, I am all too happy trade the tidier date.Format() for the more powerful underlying functional constructs any day.

[romaniv]

when I think back to my C# days, it makes me wonder how I ever did without functions as first class objects and a slew of other really great things about JS.

C# has delegates, events, lambda function, properties and async function as language constructs. This is as "first class" as it gets. It also has LINQ.

[phaedryx]

You forgot to add 1 to dt.getMonth(), because months index 0-11 :)

(and be careful not to accidentally concatenate that 1 instead of add)

[madisp]

uh, this won't have leading zeroes like DD.MM.YYYY format would have