[crististm]

I'm saying that just because a bunch of people say they have a new shine thing, I should not be _forced_ to use it. They are free to do whatever they want as long as they don't force me on their bandwagon.

BSD should not have to implement Linux semantics just to start the userland.

[Shish2k]

You will never be forced to use systemd. You may have to stick with running debian 7 forever and backport your own bugfixes though :P

Unless you're suggesting that developers forcing users to upgrade is bad; users forcing developers to continue providing support for deprecated software forever is good?

> BSD should not have to implement Linux semantics just to start the userland.

If neither BSD nor Linux supported files, and then Linux added support for files, would you suggest that we refrain from making file-based software, and continue giving all apps raw disk access for sake of compatibility?

Using cgroups for service management is that kind of fundamental good idea - the BSDs don't have to copy the linux API, but they should really provide something similar