[icebraining]

It's just a belief in magical lines called "borders" that suddenly change the moral nature of a man. Within the "border" a man in a costume can arrest someone, but outside the "border" he cannot.

It's not any more magical than to claim that you have exclusive rights over everything that's inside some lines called "property limits", and that you even have the right to harm people who cross those magic lines without your consent.

[oleganza]

I'm not advocating any right to property or self defence. I and you and many other people simply choose to live peacefully around people sharing same views on what's okay and what's not. And use peaceful methods to prevent violence.