[kshatrea]

I am totally going to have to ask you to define "we". All your talk, your speech here has an ambiguity based on your definition: "we" are all not the same. For e.g. your last question seems rhetorical; you feel that Joe and the President are not different. "My" answer is simply this: I can kill Joe in self-defense if he threatens my life; I cannot kill the President. Try to kill a cop in a threatening situation and you know the police force will come down on you harder. There's anecdotal evidence to prove it. Are you going to deny that?

Oleganza's question is simple: If I disagree with your morality or legal system, what would you do about it? If your answer is to say that I shouldn't ask you but read a book, then your value to me in a mutual free society is quite low and of course I don't intend to live at your expense. Therefore, I reject your "we" and "everyone" since those words imply consent, which I most certainly have not given.