[ihsw]

Calling it a failure ignores the actual goals of a bureaucracy: consolidation and centralization of power.

In that regard it's been a roaring success because there has never been such a tight and unified cooperation between the three branches of government (executive, judicial, legislative), between congress and the White House, between government and private industry, between our surveillance agency and foreign surveillance agencies, and so forth.

If there's anything to glean from this entire fiasco it's that a global world order has indeed been quietly established, and the rumblings in the EU will undermine it. Expect the US' allies to start publicly picking sides as the USG starts spending political capital.

[kimlelly]

> consolidation and centralization of power.

Yes, that's the dangerous part, here.

What I'm seeing is an extreme centralization with the goal of projecting extreme power on the outside, while neglecting - worse - working against the citizen on the inside.