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by reala 4727 days ago
The documents don't say that the FBI was planning this. They say a third party was. The FBI redacted who that third party was. I'm wondering why there haven't beeny any arrests yet.
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> I'm wondering why there haven't beeny any arrests yet.

Because making such a plan is protected by the First Amendment. Carrying it out is not.

No. Conspiring to commit murder is definitely not protected by the First Amendment. And even fantasizing openly, which should be protected as long as no attempt is made to act on the fantasy, has tended to get people locked up in recent years.
> Conspiring to commit murder is definitely not protected by the First Amendment.

A charge of conspiracy requires at least two conspirants and an overt act.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1117

If no actual preparations were made to execute the plan, it would be clear violation of the 1st amendment. What is the case of being locked up for fantasizing?
Not even close to being the same thing.
What is the case of being locked up for fantasizing?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5990666

Looks like some judge in Texas needs a lesson in First Amendment... And some guy needs a good lawyer that would destroy this crappy indictment.
That's a nice theory, but there's a news article every fortnight these days about someone getting chucked in the slammer for a casual, jokey remark on twitter being interpreted as a "terrorist threat".
Are you trying to say that it isn't protected by the First Amendment, or that law enforcement is selective?

Do remember that a police officer who threatened to kill the First Lady still has his job.

Yeah, tell that to Justin Carter.
I'd rather tell that to his prosecutors, but if you want me to further his depression and risk another suicide by telling him his Constitutional rights were violated, then hey, that's your prerogative.

I won't, though, because I'm not that much of a dick. And I'd rather allow the First Amendment Center do the talking for me, since I'm not a trained lawyer.

It doesn't say it's a third party. We just don't know.