[eblume]

I absolutely do, and having a working environment is a huge help! However I found the puppet docs to be more than sufficient, and in fact I spent the day learning puppet not through our existing code (which actually needs a fair bit of work still) but rather using the learning VM that Puppet provides on their website.

[gazarsgo]

i, on the other hand, tried to learn puppet over the course of a weekend with a brand new laptop and Boxen just after it was released. There is a nightmare of broken dependencies that still aren't resolved months later (librarian-puppet won't install apache because apache's version has a -rc in it which isn't a ruby version blah blah blah...)

now I know that using VMs / vagrant is critical to sane server orchestration development workflows though, so there's that.

[eblume]

Interesting! We do use librarian-puppet but we do not use apache. It's possible that we just managed to step around that land mind essentially by accident. Did you run in to any other issues?