[dgunn]

I think your comment was intended for me.

Their goal is protect the US. Do you think there are no threats within our borders? Seriously Americans, what's wrong with you?

See? We can all try to make each other look stupid if we want. It doesn't make your opinion correct. Show me how I will be negatively affected by the NSA continuing to do what they've always done. I assure you, I can be convinced if you're right and I'm wrong. I just can't see the down side.

[ajuc]

Secret services spying on each other is a sad reality, but till now all countries spied on each other spies/politicians/diplomats etc, not on regular people. When you work at embassy you know from the start thay you are under observation. It's like soldier going to a war for money - it was his choice. Spying on everybody is like killing civilians at war. It's worse.

Another analogy - putting everybody from a street in jail just in case. The fact that you can put criminals in jail and every country does this (and sometimes jail innocent people by error) doesn't make putting in jail EVERYBODY and releasing them when they prove they are innocent acceptable.

You may be not affected, but that doesn't make it any less evil. I am not affected by the lack of LGBT rights in Poland, but I still support them, cause it's stupid to revoke rights from people without reason.

Also allowing people to get so much power make it almost impossible to later revoke that power when they switch their goals or abuse it. Who can guarant you that nobody uses PRISM for personal benefit? Like people betting on stock exchange because they read that some company is going to default in private emails, and all other people on stock lose their money to these assholes? That's just the first example that came to my mind. Do you trust every person in NSA that they won't do such stuff? Or are you OK with it?

There is a point after which "to protect my country" is not good enough excuse to revoke people rights.

I have right to not trust officials from foreign country (that I have no way to vote out of office) with my secrets. They already are doing crazy stuff. Are you OK with what USA is doing to Snowden? Cause I'm not.

[3327]

> Also allowing people to get so much power make it almost impossible to later revoke that power when they switch their goals or abuse it. Who can guarant you that nobody uses PRISM for personal benefit? Like people betting on stock exchange because they read that some company is going to default in private emails, and all other people on stock lose their money to these assholes? That's just the first example that came to my mind. Do you trust every person in NSA that they won't do such stuff? Or are you OK with it?

I agree with this statement,

I would like to add: That this nation was built on a very powerful constitution. What makes America different than most nations is that the Constitution amendments are like Axioms. Unlike many places these rules cannot be changed, shifted or broken. Yes I am saying that the US constitution is stronger than any other constitution out there today.

The forefathers lived in a very different age but were bright people. Technology changes, times change but human nature and instinct does not. If we do not stand for the constitution and what it means you will be accepting a different reality and a different America. We will die time will continue but to ensure that America is what it was intended to be we must show our presence today and protect the basic civil rights of Americans.

>Their goal is protect the US. Do you think there are no threats within our borders? Seriously Americans, what's wrong with you?

There were always threats within our borders. Thats why we have the DEA, FBI, ATF, Homeland Sec., etc.

Billions of dollars of data and wire tapping is not going to protect you. A person with will an intent to do evil will and can do it no matter what.

However, if the solution is to give up our civil liberties which makes this country the best place on earth in panic, distrust and spying on our own people; then we have already lost and they (evil) have won.