[dgunn]

One, I don't think the NSA isn't allowed to spy domestically. The NSA is charged with collecting foreign and counter intelligence in an effort to protect the interests of the US. If there is an intelligence need which requires domestic collection methods, you better believe they are allowed, by law, to collect.

Even if they weren't allowed to spy domestically, I'm not convinced that would be an appropriate limitation on the NSA. They are the best at this type of intelligence collection. As long as the US has enemies within it's own borders, tying the hands of people who can help us is going to be a pretty bad idea.

[ajuc]

> As long as the US has enemies within it's own borders, tying the hands of people who can help us is going to be a pretty bad idea.

You are aware that this sentence sounds like from worst communist propaganda from stalinist period?

[3327]

> As long as the US has enemies within it's own borders, tying the hands of people who can help us is going to be a pretty bad idea.

A constant state of fear, always at war, our enemies are about to attack us.

Isn't this what North Korea fuels the fire with?

I will be protesting and the point is that a multibillion dollar infringement of the constitution is not whats going to stop domestic "enemies". Its stemming hate and spreading peace that will ultimately matter. If someone is willing to attack you, if they are smart, and if they have nothing to loose and are willing to die for it then NOTHING, NOTHING can stop them. Not even Minority Report.

We whom will protest will protest because there are other ways to attain these goals, without breaking the constitution.

[dgunn]

> A constant state of fear, always at war, our enemies are about to attack us. Isn't this what North Korea fuels the fire with?

If you think a country this size could ever reach the point of having no enemies, you are delusional. We will never be close to this condition. Spreading peace sounds great. In fact, I fully believe that the highest calling of mankind is to respect and care for others. I don't want hate and fear. But I'm also not delusional. We are a highly targeted country. We have enemies and will continue to have them inside and outside of our borders. Recognizing that does not make me or any other rational person a fear monger. Not recognizing it makes you appear naive.

[ajuc]

The point isn't that there are no enemies. The point is that the cure is worse than the sickness.

Anyway, what are you worrying about? Another 9/11? Car accidents are more probable causes of death, and you could eliminate most of them cheaper and with no ethical issues, boosting economy as a byproduct (build fast railroads, subsidize the tickets). Gun ownership is another low hanging fruit. Hell, even just making flying cheaper and more accessible will probably save more lives than NSA.

[dgunn]

> Anyway, what are you worrying about? Another 9/11?

Yes. Of course. I want NSA to keep horrible things like that from happening.

Yes. There are other ways to die than terrorist attacks. They're also bad? I'm really not sure where you're going with this.

I haven't been noticeably affected by the NSA collecting data on me. I can't think of many ways in which I would be affected. I would probably be affected if I were interested in doing something illegal and needed to communicate with someone about it. I'm ok with that reality.

Seriously, someone chime in if you've been negatively affected by the NSA collecting coms data on you. Everyone acts like its the end of the world but it all seems like hype to me. Just another way to get traffic to a news site. One thing I haven't heard is how it's affecting people. People didn't even know it was happening til some guy decided to tell them. If something can go unnoticed for this long, how horrible could it be? Everyone's just creeped out by it and I guess I don't care.