[mr_noah]

Over 90% of the boards on 4chan are nothing but discussions about the particular subject. The most illegal stuff that happens on these boards is uploading images without permission, yes, it's that bad.

Most people who speak of 4chan in this way, are really just talking about /b/.

[eli_gottlieb]

No, actually. I don't go to /b/. I can't even follow /b/; I try to keep track of a single thread or meme and it completely gets away from me. But as I said, there are some boards filled with blatant neo-Nazis, some filled with some of the world's more disgusting pornography, blah blah blah.

Now, if you want to call it "the last bastion of freedom [to spread hate ideologies, post loli hentai, etc]", go ahead. However, be clear that you are defending the freedom to commit immoral acts.

4chan is the Mal Reynolds of the internet, not Luke Skywalker.

[jlgreco]

At various times in history the ACLU has defended the KKK.

I see no problem with defending freedom of horrible people. Both from an ethical standpoint, and from a pragmatic standpoint (I would rather those people communicate in a way that has some visibility/oversight. You are not going to stop them, only push them underground; I think most would agree that would be a bad thing.)

[eli_gottlieb]

At various times in history the ACLU has defended the KKK.

Yes, and? If you actually believe in free speech, calling someone a Horrible Person is not a disguised argument for shutting them down.

4chan is full of really horrible people. Sometimes I am one of them. This doesn't mean they should be shut down by the government or something. However, it also doesn't mean they're Glorious Heroes Fighting For Righteousness.

[jlgreco]

> However, it also doesn't mean they're Glorious Heroes Fighting For Righteousness.

Who is arguing that?

[eli_gottlieb]

Seemingly everyone here who claims, against all evidence, that 4chan has a good moral character.

Now surely everyone is going to yell that they're just protecting their beloved web from censorship. However, since I never proposed censorship, that means most of them are arguing against the evil, censorious Congressman in their own heads, rather than against anything I actually said.

[indlebe]

I think that less people would have problems with your comment if you stated that you were an oldfriend right off the bat.

[mhurron]

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> oldfriend

Hey wait a minute ...

CENSORSHIP

[eli_gottlieb]

But I'm not an oldfriend. I've only been making intermittent visits to 4chan for a couple of years now.