[tkahn6]

EU nations spy on the US. That's not up for debate. It is a fact.

That's how the world works.

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/30/world/us-expanding-its-eff...

[kalms]

You're linking to an article on corporate spying. We're discussing spying on government officials on, what I can only assume, is a lot more serious matters, i.e waging wars.

This is a trust/image issue for the states, and it's really taking a beating right now.

[hackinthebochs]

Lets not make the same mistake that most people were making regarding the NSA before these leaks: it makes logical sense that EU governments would spy on everyone they technologically can; ergo we must assume that they are.

[kalms]

EU doesn't spy on anyone - we have no central intelligence. So let's not assume anything.

[hackinthebochs]

>EU governments

AKA individual member nation governments.

[kalms]

Assume away. But France is not Denmark and vice versa.

[jabbernotty]

It is possible that this kind of activity from European countries is in fact a direct result of similar activity by the US government.

[tkahn6]

Ok?

[tokenizer]

Oh come on. He missed a quotation mark so you don't address the question. Pedantic sir, Pedantic! /intentional

[tkahn6]

If it was a question, it was rhetorical - and irrelevant.

[tokenizer]

Just like our last 4 comments. But here I am, giving you my morning coffee time.

I digress. I think ultimately you have to decide to accept current practises as inevitable, or malleable.

I for one, do not think allies should spy on each other. Being caught so would have punitive repercussions such as increases in trade rates. If perpetrator makes a big deal about it, then find better allies, and then they can spy all they want.