[samstave]

Amazingly happy to see that HN and /r/news|politics|worldnews now looks like /r/conspiracy exploded all over them.

I am happy that the worries of echelon, which was treated as rumour, hearsay and conspiracy theory are now 100% proven to the entire world.

I am looking forward to seeing what further revelations Snowden's files will show.

[DanBC]

Not sure if you're using sarcasm[1] or not, but Echelon is accepted fact and has been for many years.

The European Parliament held reports on the capabilities of Echelon. Industrial espionage has been linked to Echelon.

The purpose of Echelon (intercept communications data) is the stated purpose of GCHQ. Really, it's on their website and in their recruiting material. They monitor all communications, anywhere in the world, from DC to light.

Echelon isn't fantastic weird conspiracy theory.

[1] Sarcasm is not useful in text and it's especially not useful on a forum like HN, where there tends to be a higher number of users who are more literal than the regular population.

[samstave]

No sarcasm at all.

For the majority of the population, they have either never heard of echelon, never took it seriously or have outright dismissed it as a crazy conspiracy irrespective of the previous proof.

I think of all these things are coming out now as an opportunity to have a serious discussion about wtf the US (and humanity) is doing.

It's time to work as a global civilization. Our resources are squandered on creating truly a prison planet (no reference or credit to Alex jones).

[drivebyacct2]

I guess sam can chime in but I didn't really see anything sarcastic in his reply.