[mpyne]

You may not like Clinton but tons of people do. Ignore that at the peril of the political goals you try to advance.

But either way, the point is that Clinton's opinion is going to be a decent bellwether as to the general opinion. I think spitx is right on target on how to advance change (or at least, what to avoid).

[hga]

Sure, "tons of people do", they're by definition part of the problem, since they explicitly or implicitly support these types of thuggishness, as long as it's directed at their enemies.

We on the other side mostly want to be left alone. Their side isn't willing to do that, which is why we're sliding towards a hot civil war.