[tomjen3]

Apparently for these people seduction = violence against women.

I haven't seen such a broken thinking process anywhere else. If anything seduction is about giving women what they really want. That said it does have a somewhat, hmm, sketchy reputation which is no doubt related to a combination of loathing for men who have a difficult time getting laid and the extreme marketing tactics that those kinds of guides are usually sold with.

And seduction isn't inheriently bad, but there are still some around who are trying to be politically correct and seduction isn't exactly something you are supposed to talk about in polite company.

[rimantas]

Take a look at some survey on the subject what women want in terms of sexual fantasies. Dominance from men will be high at the top.

[draq]

<irony>Of course, because some women want dominance from men, it means that all women loves it. If you unpermittedly invade the personal space of 100 women, and only 10 complain about it, then it's only 10% sexual harassment, right?</irony>

[aeorgnoieang]

By the same reasoning, if some women do NOT want "dominance from men" then all "dominance" is sexual assault?

[draq]

To establish that dominance is not sexual assault, you should communicate. Simply to impose a dominant behaviour in case of doubt is not a GOOD strategy and may be sexual assault.

[mindcrime]

Just read My Secret Garden by Nancy Friday sometime. Women have some f%!#ng sick fantasies... but somehow men are painted as the sexual predators / deviants, from whom the pure, wholesome, virtuous, innocent girls must be protected...

[Nursie]

It has a sketchy reputation because it's about getting as many women into bed as possible and treating them as objects rather than people.