[unreal37]

I think Snowden did the best he could do under the circumstances. Expose the truth, run to a safe place, and then identify himself publicly. He's not running, he just prefers freedom to a jail cell. Who doesn't? MLK and Rosa Parks weren't facing 100 years in jail or the death penalty, were they?

[frozenport]

Don't forget that MLK was shot.

[wavefunction]

And probably not even by the guy that went to prison for it.

[pondababa]

Eh? What evidence is there for this, or is it like the JFK conspiracy theories?

[tod222]

In 1999, the King family conducted a civil case to consider the existence of an assassination conspiracy. The suit (for wrongful death) mentioned only Loyd Jowers by name, but also alleged government involvement.

The jury–six blacks and six whites—found that King had been the victim of assassination by a conspiracy involving the Memphis police as well as federal agencies. [1]

The judge continued: “Do you also find that others, including governmental agencies, were parties to this conspiracy as alleged by the defendant?’ Your answer to that one is also ‘Yes.’” [2]

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Martin_Luther_...

[2] http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/Unspeakable/MLKconExp.ht...

I submitted reference 2 as a HN story. For further discussion of the MLK conspiracy go here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5891883

[wavefunction]

James Earl Ray initially entered a guilty plea but later recanted. There are a lot of sources out there but never has anything been proven.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earl_Ray

Head down to the "denial of confession" section. Whether or not there was a conspiracy, I just wanted to bring up that it was still questionable about who actually shot Dr. King.

[prollyignored]

The reason why propaganda works, in my opinion is, you send a "simple" message a 1000 times.

Here the message is "young narcissistic man, who ran away"

"But bob, you are only arguing the means, not the end. Do you think, the idea of a surveillance-free America should be stiffled ?"

That question, will never be asked with equal flair, in a one way propaganda.

[foobarbazqux]

Yeah, the greatest accomplishments in history are often linked to narcissistic personalities, generally because the person needs to prove something to the world to make up for their secretly poor self-esteem.

[prollyignored]

Please don't think that I am trying to correct you. But narcissism has nothing to do with our Snowy. It's inception, by brute force.

What Bob is doing is, he is compressing the issue to a trifle.

It's the reporter equivalent of calling "LOL OP, you are such a short sighted faggot" and receiving precious HN karma for it.

When you can't win a debate, you win by stinking it up and making others leave.

That's how trolls killed love4eva-forum.

Every sell-out reporter is doing it, for quite some time actually.

Edit: Does anyone remember the sheer Debauchery of the press, during the Occupy movement ?

[foobarbazqux]

All I meant was it seems strange in the first place to use narcissism as an argument to attack somebody's work.