[onion2k]

Daniel defines "entrepreneur" as something that doesn't include startup founders, and then argues why startup founders aren't entrepreneurs. Err.. duh?

That's great, if, and it's a very big if, you agree with the initial and very limited definition of "entrepreneur". The fact is "entrepreneur" doesn't mean "someone who sets out to start a business in order to make money", which is Daniel's definition. An entrepreneur is someone who starts a business. It's that simple. Startup founders are entrepreneurs. They are often aiming very high, sometimes a bit naive, and occasionally downright delusional, but they definitely fit the entrepreneur mould. To suggest otherwise is wrong.

[swombat]

I use that definition because I'm trying to make a point. Clearly, I am trying to appropriate the word "entrepreneur" to mean something more specific than "anyone who starts a business". That is a pretty useless definition for my purposes.