[xkcdfanboy]

We really need unions. These polls only help so much. Unfortunately also, there are both retard programmers, and actual programmers. I worked with a retard programmer, he thought that learning Django was a feat of strength...sigh..when I told him about OOP he almost shit his pants.

[beaumartinez]

> I worked with a retard programmer, he thought that learning Django was a feat of strength.

Maybe it was for him?

You shouldn't be so hard on someone else. I'm sure there are people here way smarter than you or I, and they don't call us "retard programmers".

[barking]

> he thought that learning Django was a feat of strength...sigh.

Unbelieveable, pulp fiction or Jackie Brown if you really must, but really why bother?

[_progger_]

Unions ain't gonna happen. Not accepting low salaries could be a start.

[hucker]

Norway has unions for IT-workers. The union base pay of around 470k NOK (~52K GBP, ~80K USD) is pretty much guaranteed straight out of university if you have a masters degree.

In general I think it is a good thing, although I dislike the biggest one (Tekna) (that I was formerly a member of) because they supported the DRD[0]. I have since become a member of a different union (NITO).

[0]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Retention_Directive

[walshemj]

Prospect represents people in the IT TMT industries http://www.prospect.org.uk/