| > But, Afghanistan was the base of the 9/11 attack on the US that killed 3000 innocent US civilians. No, it bloody was not. Many of those people hadn't even been in Afghanistan. The ones who were, and who "received training" had mostly received that in the context of fighting Russia. The myth of the 9/11 training camp in Afghanistan is entirely made up. Terrorist camps themselves are a myth. Militias train in the hills with weapons, terrorists don't execute those attacks and don't need/get that training. Further, you've killed over 200 people, almost every one civilian, for every person killed in the 9/11 attacks. In retribution, against people who weren't involved. > No, you still know whom you are killing, because of the human INTEL and not because they are carrying knives. The same HUMINT you pick and choose to justify invading Iraq? The same HUMINT that says "bomb that wedding"? Because your intel is notoriously bad, especially in that area of the world - even now, and there's such a conflict of interest at all levels. No, it's just straight-up murder when you drone-bomb someone without on-screen visible reasons (driving a tank) because you have such a low standard of proof - it wouldn't qualify to get a warrant to search the person back home. But even if your intel was perfect, your leaders ignore anything that doesn't let them proceed with the already-planned mobilization. Iraq wasn't a mistake, Iraq was one of the largest cases of mass murder on the planet - second only barely to monsters from our past. And it was planned before 9/11, and before the cooked-up WMD scare, etc. > Really, radical Islam is based on a simple, old dynamic: Some people want more power. No, really? Because that's only exactly like every other group on the planet. > In Egypt, the Islamists didn't like the secular dictator [that we installed] and got rid of him Funny that. And funny how you make a big deal about secular when it's the fact that he had people abducted for secrets trials and executions, and that the USA backed him, than his religious status, that bothered the Egyptians. Oh, and that he was a dictator, and felt he had the right to rule for life. But yeah, just radical Islamists... > There's a lot of pushing and shoving, heavily enabled by oil money: Yes. Texas oil money. And other. > But no way is much of that pushing and shoving due to anything the US did or did wrong. You're probably wrong, but it's a tellingly pathetic defense for a pathetic position regardless. |