[Cardeck1]

"I have drawers full of those kinds of ideas I could build, I don't need an idea person for that."

"I could do myself with a trivial effort"

This is ridiculous, you know that?I'm a programmer too but I can't say I have a drawer full of super-mega-awesome ideas.If that were true you would be a billionaire by now.

So how about we stop bragging about it?Because in reality most of us don't have those revolutionary ideas.You know why?Because we overthink it too much.Sometimes an outside mind can see things clearer even if it's not technical.

Arrogance kills innovation all the time.

[demallien]

There are two types of "awesome idea" 1) a truly awesome idea, which if executed properly will lead to me becoming a billionaire 2) a sucky idea that will make me work on a project for two years for pretty much no financial return.

The problem is that nobody knows the way to tell the difference between the two without actually trying to execute. The GP apparently understands this, that's why he only has a drawful of ideas rather than Google. The GP is right to say that creating type 2 ideas is relatively trivial.

Which is not to say that the "ideas" guy might not have a type 1 idea in his pocket, but nobody (including the ideas guy) can actually tell, and the odds are that he has more of a type 2 idea than a type 1 idea.

[Cardeck1]

I agree with you in some points.What I was trying to say is, we should stop the thinking that we, as technical people, have the best ideas and the best thinking and we are the ultimate SELECTORS when it comes to building a team and creating a startup.

Now, I don't know how everyone sees an "idea guy".For example, for me an "idea guy" = someone who is not involved in the startup/business world at all and suddenly comes up with a "brilliant idea" in a domain he does not understand at all.Now, of course I wouldn't work with him.But if a non-tech guy comes to me with a clear idea and he knows his stuff around the product and his familiar with the startup/tech scene, of course I would work with him.What I want from him is not really programming but insane passion, creativity, dedication, hungry to learn anything relevant to his product etc. And let me tell you, I rarely fail with this strategy.But who asks these questions nowadays?Nobody.Everyone is interested if the non-technical guy is a technical guy...No wonder there is so much terror when it comes to these people.

[imrand]

Nice reply Cardeck, echoes my sentiments exactly, in my reply to MGirdleys post.I should have asked you if your interested in being a co-founder lol!! I dont understand why there is so much hostility between tech and idea/biz folk, whose got the bigger b*lls etc

I think being an "idea" person is about knowing the market your going in, understanding your application and development in that market, the sales, finance etc Remember often what you go onto develop will not be used by tech guys so you also perhaps need an outside looking in perspective...but maybe I'm just saying that as the "idea" person

[gurvinder]

Most of the time its not the idea which is very unique or world changing, it the execution of the idea which makes it a success. so yes I have drawer full of ideas, and I see them being executed by other in nice ways and becoming successful, but If I would try to do the same idea, I am sure I won't be successful.