[GhotiFish]

I had this philosophy for every single crack.

Computers do what they're programmed to do, they do what you told them to do, if you didn't want your computer to respond to a buffer overflow by writing over the stack and executing a sequence of commands that escalated the defendant to an administrator, you shouldn't of programmed that feature in.

When you inserted that string directly into that SQL command, you gave your users access to a wide range of features. Now all of a sudden you don't like that feature any more because someone used it? You gave the users the ability to ask for arbitrary tables in your database, why should a hacker go to court for asking for a "user table"? Shouldn't you be the one in court?

That's how I saw things when I was ~15, anyway. I still kinda think that way... Though I've figured out that just because someone left their safe open, doesn't mean you get to steal the gold.

[jlgreco]

> Though I've figured out that just because someone left their safe open, doesn't mean you get to steal the gold.

True. Though on the other hand, if somebody figures out they they get free sodas when they hold down both the coke and sprite buttons, as far as I am concerned they get to have their free soda.

[kivikakk]

There is surely some cognitive dissonance here.

> > Though I've figured out that just because someone left their safe open, doesn't mean you get to steal the gold.

> True. Though on the other hand, if somebody figures out they they get free sodas when they hold down both the coke and sprite buttons, as far as I am concerned they get to have their free soda.

So, if the safe is left open, you don't get to take it, but if you press buttons that unintentionally make it open up, you get you have your free gold? uh.

[jlgreco]

If the teller gives you free money, that is on the teller, not you. Whether that teller is human or an automated machine doesn't particularly matter to me.

Just don't take money that the teller, automated or otherwise, does not volunteer. Regular safes and vaults, with no teller, have no agency and are not capable of giving you money.

[jacalata]

Does 'inserting a coat hanger into a vending machine' count as 'pressing the coke and sprite buttons together' or 'they left their safe open'?

[GhotiFish]

Exactly, it's not a solid line. The smarter the system gets, the more the blame goes from the user to the system.

I wonder what's going to happen to philosophy if/when we hit the event horizon.

[analog]

"If the teller gives you free money, that is on the teller, not you." That's not true in law, if a bank mistakenly credits your account they can retrieve the money.