[philhippus]

I understand the aversion to haggling but, consider that it is one of the most economic uses of your time. If you haggle for 10 minutes and get $50 off, you are working at a rate of $300 per hour for the duration of the haggle. Not money to be sniffed at by any measure.

[toomuchtodo]

You know how long I had to haggle at a shady Toyota dealership to get my brother his Yaris? 4 hours. 4 HOURS. Haggling does not take 10 minutes at a car dealership once you get to a certain point in the process.

I make enough money that I can throw it away on not haggling for a car. Carmax can keep whatever I left on the table by not dealing with a douchebag car dealership.

[philhippus]

How much did you get off? If you got anything over $1000 then that 4 hours was time well spent. There's a good chance you don't make $250 per hour at your normal job, you're the exception if you do.

[lacksconfidence]

Rich people spend thousands of dollars on private planes just so they don't have to deal with the BS flying commercial. Dealing with a car sales person is no more fun than going through airport security, i happily pay a premium to not deal with those people.