[nknighthb]

> Outsourcing manufacturing also depresses local salaries.

No, it moves jobs, generally entire categories of jobs, to lower-cost areas. If someone wishes to continue working in that type of job, they must do it in a place with lower cost of living.

> I totally understand that some programmers feel more competition is not in their best interest.

That has nothing to do with anything I said, and in fact I pretty clearly articulated that such a view has nothing to do with the fear some people have of the H1B program.

> I think you're resorting to unnecessary hyperbole here.

I think you're reading things into my comment that are not there, because you wrongly assume I oppose H1B visas.