[philf]

Unfortunately I installed Hangout on my phone this morning and basically destroyed most of the utility GTalk had. None of my Google Talk contacts can send messages to my mobile, I can't see them in my contact list (not even people with Google accounts that don't use G+) and for the remaining ones with G+ accounts there's no presence information I can recognize.

[thwarted]

I have two google apps for domains accounts, on personal and one for work, and since the hangouts app shows your contacts, and the contacts are not strictly bound to a g-account on the phone when browsing, the contacts lists and circles are all mixed up. I'm paranoid about chatting with someone at work via my personal account and then polluting their seen-people history contact list with my personal account. This was much easier to keep separate with the gtalk app.

I may need two phones to keep this stuff separate properly.

[rtpg]

The one thing that really annoyed me is that all my AIM contacts disappeared. Granted I only have 2 people with which I talk regularly, but one of them is pretty much my best friend, and luckily I have other venues of communication because if not I would have lost contact with him forever because Google hates me.

[mtgx]

Yes, that pissed me off, too. The messenger is now basically the old G+ Messenger, and not Gtalk.

Also if they were going to do this, they should've done it across all Gtalk platforms at once, so nobody feels the "fragmentation" between the services. I heard it will begin being rolled out to Gmail soon, but still. It all should've happened in day one.

[Hurdy]

It's being rolled out to Gmail since day 1. You can't launch something like this to several 100 millions of users in an hour.