[nivla]

>Face it Microsoft: Windows Phone is a dismal failure.

So did a smart guy say once about Apple. I went from being a hardcore Android fan to just falling in love with my Lumia phone. Everyone I know who has a windows phone has been happy with it. So no I don't think it is a dismal failure.

I have found replacements for most Google services but there doesn't exist or may never exist one for Youtube. I was a user of Youtube before Google was a buyer, so yes it sucks to be given a second class treatment because you made the unpopular choice for your phone. Hope this doesn't repeat, you know with Ubuntu and Firefox phones coming out.

[r00fus]

> So did a smart guy say once about Apple.

Who ever did is either eating crow for that, or isn't as smart as he claimed.

Microsoft has been in the mobile business for a long time. They have tried to re-invent their offerings at least two times, probably more. There are a lot of OEMs with knives in their backs (e.g.: Sendo, OQO) in the wake.

That they have failed to succeed after blowing such a lead and countless investment dollars is a real organizational character failure on their part. That some in Redmond think they're still winning is even sadder.

[CloudNine]

Windows Phone is seeing decent numbers, 6 million in the last quarters. The lack of apps like YouTube and Instagram is hurting the platform and they're showing they're serious about fixing that issuee by picking a fight with Google.

[codeka]

So 6 million Windows Phones in a whole quarter, compared to 6 million Android phones in about 10 days... yeah, they're going great.

[cmircea]

You don't get market share overnight when your platform has 100x less apps. On the same note devs don't want to write apps for WP because it has no market share.

See the issue?

[kyrias]

    > Everyone I know who has a windows phone has 
    > been happy with it.

Yes, and everyone I know who has an iPhone or Android are happy with them, otherwise they'd just get something else.

Whether the people actually using the OS likes it or not is besides the point, it's the actual number of people that use said OS that's the point.

[nivla]

No, whether people like it or not is also part of the point. If you like a product, you are more likely to recommend it to someone, and word of mouth does wonders for adoption. If the actual count for adoption of Windows phone had been going down, then the statement about its failure can be taken into consideration, but its quiet the opposite, it has been rising steadily.

Try finding the Walmart exclusive windows phone Lumia 521 which came about a week ago, you can't, its selling like hot pancakes all across America. Its only a matter of time till Windows Phone becomes a real competitor and the reason why Google is worried.