[lowboy]

It's tricky to define exactly, but I like this article's take on it: http://webdesign.about.com/od/tables/a/aa122605.htm

A list of emails can be thought of as tabular data. In Gmail, you have columns (selection, star, important, participants, subject, and date) with one row per email. That's a table without explicit headers.

Yeah, with current css specs in browsers you need to resort to table-cell stylings like display:table-row and display:table-cell. But that can be done without using actual <table> elements.

[jdwissler]

I see. I don't think we actually disagree on anything, but were just thinking of different semantics.

I should have qualified that I rarely use the table tag and use display:table-cell.

I was thinking of them as effectively the same as using a table for layout.