[LaGrange]

What causes suicide is that at the point where depression lifts a bit, you suddenly are able to take action, but not necessarily any happier. In fact, did you not that part about "hate" in the OP? That's when people kill themselves. It happens with medication, it happens with CBT, it is an essential inherent risk of depression therapy — the first few months are dangerous.

[peterwwillis]

I mostly caught the part where the guy I replied to was making ridiculous statements about both antidepressants and how there is somehow a "logic" which dictates that illegal substances can't treat depression.

[seunosewa]

What I said was that it is completely illogical to say that because you think heroin can fight depression and its also addictive and destructive, that therefore real anti-depressants must also be addictive and destructive. You cannot infer the properties of anti-depressants from the properties of a bunch of illegal drugs that you (a lay person) consider to have anti-depressant properties.

[LaGrange]

Actually, while not really addictive, virtually all anti-depressant/anti-anxiety drugs turned out to be habit forming, to pharma corps dismay and nobodies surprise.

[qu4z-2]

> to pharma corps dismay and nobodies surprise.

Wow. In my head that was the most sarcasm-dripping "dismay" I've read this week.