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by pflats 4796 days ago
I'd love it if anyone could give a good head to head on Scratch 2.0 vs. Snap! 4.0[1] (the new name for BYOB, Berkley's Scratch spin-off). I realize that Snap is aimed more teaching high school/college CS, but they're seeming to converge a bit.

I don't have a CS class this year, so I haven't set aside enough time to dig into the latest versions of Snap or Scratch. If anyone has any insight to share, it'd be greatly appreciated.

[1] http://snap.berkeley.edu

2 comments

From a purely technical perspective, the biggest difference is that the Berkeley team (Snap) re-implemented in JavaScript, and MIT (Scratch 2.0) in Flash. The former also uses XML as a format, the latter JSON (in 2.0).

Like you say, Snap's main difference is it makes some more advanced CS concepts more overt, primarily for use as a teaching tool for older students. To this end, it doesn't have the deep social integration that Scratch does: remixing and sharing are a big part of Scratch.

But that isn't to say that Scratch isn't suitable for high school or college level courses - Harvard's been using Scratch in the first week of it's intro CS class for several years now, with great success. The advantage of Snap is that transitioning from it to pure coding can be less of a leap, due to support for things like recursion, procedures, and continuations.

The Lifelong Kindergarten's remit at MIT means that they tend to place emphasis on a certain age range. In addition to Snap there's also an offshoot of Scratch targeted at very young children (Scratch Jr, which I think is developed by Tufts).

So Smalltalk is gone?! :(
Thank you!
Since Snap doesn't rely on Flash, it nominally works on an iPad.
It does, kind of, didn't try it our extensively but I got things to happen.