[Ergomane]

You can still buy a Dell XPS 13 with Ubuntu via dell.nl or an OS-less laptop via BTO.

> http://linuxcomputers.nl/

They don't appear to even mention secure boot as the reason, but pricing, margin and lack of interest, both from consumers as from vendors.

[Toshio]

The thing is, high-end laptops used to be one expensive option among many before the whole SecureBoot thing.

You had a choice.

That choice has been killed. High-end laptops are now the only option if you want freedom, and that's not an accidental thing, it's by microsoft's design.

[mdmarra]

I'm failing to see why disabling Secure Boot on a lower-end laptop before installing Linux isn't a viable option here?

Of course, being able to have it ship disabled by default is ideal, but for the HN crowd and for Linux shops, disabling Secure Boot in BIOS/EFI is trivial.

[phaylon]

What about people who want to dual-boot?

[illuminate]

What about them? It remains trivial to dual-boot.