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by lobotryas 4801 days ago
Jus Soli[1] has its own share of challenges and problems[2][3]. Personally I would prefer the US to abolish or drastically modify the American Jus Soli provision. It has caused too many heart-breaking situations where the illegal immigrant's child is a citizen and has to enter the foster system because his parents get being deported.

Overall only education, integration and the political clout to refuse to sacrifice democratic principles in the face of potential demands from new immigrants is a way that open immigration can work.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

[2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_tourism

[3] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchor_babies

1 comments

meh, the idea is to give yourself a way to heal mistakes you make. You will make mistakes. insuring that anyone born here is a citizen, I think, is a good start to insuring that those mistakes will heal.

It's also a nice, neutral way of defining 'American' that doesn't have racial overtones.

What mistakes are you talking about? How will granting "jus solis" heal these mistakes?
The big problem I see is creating this 'underclass' of people who don't have the rights of a full citizen. I mean, it's normal to do this when someone immigrates; depending on visa, sometimes they can't even legally work. Or they can work, but they are put in a legal position, for instance, where they have to leave the country 15 days after they get fired.

But, to me? the really bad thing would be to make that hereditary. To say you don't have full citizenship because your dad didn't have full citizenship, even if you have never set foot outside of America.

"jus solis" means that whatever legal restrictions we place on immigrants will fade with time, as they die off.