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by lutusp 4801 days ago
> For the old timers here, what was is it like in the suit and tie culture of the past?

There's a bit more to it than that. There's the East/West coast factor to consider. East coast companies are much more likely to require/expect a suit and tie than a Silicon Valley company. At some East coast companies, even the janitors wear a suit and tie. I'm not making this up -- I've worked at several such companies where it was true.

> Do you know or have you been fired for choosing not to wear one?

It might be better to look at one's advancement prospects instead of fired/not fired. If you don't dress like you belong in an executive suite, chances are you won't be asked to occupy one.

> Any stories of employees firing their best employees or passing over a really great candidate because they refused to follow dress code?

This way of looking at it unfortunately suffers from self-reference. Someone who won't meet the dress code won't be looked on as a "really great candidate", so the exercise is undermined at the outset.

Suffice it to say that following the dress code is so basic and essential that no meaningful study that correlated dress and advancement could be done.

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>This way of looking at it unfortunately suffers from self-reference. Someone who won't meet the dress code won't be looked on as a "really great candidate", so the exercise is undermined at the outset.

Even if that person is well known for being the best of the best? Even if their everyone knows that other companies out there would love to grab them because they are that good?

> Even if that person is well known for being the best of the best?

There are too many subjective factors that enter into such an evaluation, including how that person is dressed.

> Even if their everyone knows that other companies out there would love to grab them because they are that good?

In human affairs, "good" can never be made completely objective, and human studies are rarely scientific in the classic sense. In this case, "good" might arise from the most superficial evaluation -- for example, just a picture of the candidate in his suit. :)

The best of the best will always be the exception to any rule in any industry.But the best of the best doesn't care if he gets fired because he will always come on top.So you are asking the wrong question.
Yes. There are companies, and management structures, that are much more about conformity than excellence.