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by yanw 4800 days ago
I try to avoid these sorts of submissions, mainly because of their non-content and the subsequent familiar discussion, but somehow they keep reaching the front page.

It’s certainly your prerogative to use whatever you like but the incorrect assertions bother me, especially the prevalent one: “It's because I think that Google is now working against the potential of the open web”.

Here’s a rebuttal in the form of a partial list of links to Google initiatives that exist primarily to advance the “open web”:

http://www.webrtc.org

http://www.chromium.org

And their various web speed efforts:

https://developers.google.com/speed/spdy

https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed

And of course:

https://fiber.google.com

I don't think the closure of Google Reader was any indication to the contrary, and all of these are certainly much more important to the web than yet another centralized RSS reader.

Other errors in that post: Chrome never ‘dropped decent RSS support’ as it never supported it to begin with, it was actually Firefox that dropped their support. Also there is no evidence that Reader was closed to “drive users to Google+”, there is no proof nor common sense explanation to support that assertion.

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    Here’s a rebuttal in the form of a partial list of links to Google
    initiatives that exist primarily to advance the “open web”:
    
    http://www.chromium.org
That's funny. I see Chromium as their OSS alibi for doing whatever non-standard they want with open-web HTML, which doesn't exist in any other browser. But now it's not "proprietary", because it's in a OS code-repo somewhere.

So now it's "standards" even though it hasn't been submitted, ratified or approved yet. And everyone else, if they dont want Google's stuff to work poorly in their browser, has to be a dog and follow Google's leash.

I consider Chromium some of the worst damage Google has done to the open web.

Interesting opinion. I hadn't considered it like that at all, but I will give it some thought. How much of the non-standard stuff is getting any use/traction (honest question)?

For me, currently, Chromium seems like nothing like a good thing. For example, their Linux sandboxing appears to be at least a step ahead of anything else so far.

Huh, Firefox hasn't dropped RSS support? The button is just not in the Awesomebar anymore.
Thanks - I've corrected that error.

See my other comments on this item for rebuttal of your other points :)