[shocks]

> HEY, HEY, LOG IN TO YOUR MOUSE NOW > Lastly, every single update to the software requires that you reboot the entire machine.

I only used the software once, a few years ago. I never logged into anything, it never required internet access, it never frequently updated and it never required a reboot.

You realise you don't need the software right? You can use the mouse perfectly without it. All the software lets you do is change the sensitivity (any good OS will let you do that), turn off the light, and program the "bottom" button. The light is under your hand 90% of the time and is off when your computer is off. It's a non-issue. The button the bottom is in an irritating position and I have never needed to use it. Sure, you could configure it to change sensitivity during a game (consider running and gunning vs. accurate sniping, perhaps?) but in reality no one is going to lift their mouse during an computer game to adjust the sensitivity.

> the default behaviour is some pre-Windows-95 we've-just-invented-scroll-wheels one-pixel-per-rotation insanity.

I have never experienced this problem. I don't know what you're talking about.

[kbd]

> All the software lets you do is change the sensitivity (any good OS will let you do that), turn off the light, and program the "bottom" button.

Except if you have a mouse like the Naga with more programmable buttons, they're all useless unless you use the software.

[tbob22]

Did you try something like X-Mouse Button Control?

It works great on my MX518 so I don't have to use the terrible Logitech software to configure the extra buttons. :)

[kbd]

Just looked that up. It's Windows-only and I use a Mac.

Regardless, I'm using the old, pre-Synapse drivers and they work ok.

[shocks]

Right, this is with regards to the DeathAdder only. :)

[ohkine]

> I only used the software once, a few years ago. I never logged into anything, it never required internet access, it never frequently updated and it never required a reboot.

They changed the software package literally less than a week after i bought the DeathAdder. Previously there was a specific 'DeathAdder' utility which, as you said, didn't require any online junk. But they completely removed it from existence once their port of the Windows software left beta or whatever.

I did try installing a copy of it that i had saved from before, but it seems that the act of installing the new software somehow broke the ability to use the old one, and i didn't want to spend hours fucking with some mouse driver.

> You realise you don't need the software right? You can use the mouse perfectly without it.

No, you can't. Or i can't, anyway. The default tracking is unusable to me (i like it much slower and smoother-scaling than most people seem to), and OS X's tracking slider didn't help. The only way to make it even tolerable was to use the software. Additionally, the buttons would be recognised incorrectly unless you told the software what you wanted them to behave as.

> I have never experienced this problem. I don't know what you're talking about.

Obviously i was being facetious, i'm sure it was actually one line per 'click' or whatever. Each click had far too much travel for that to be usable. Especially in comparison to the Magic Mouse and Mighty Mouse, with which you can near-instantaneously flick to the bottom of a long Web page.

If you didn't experience that, i guess i don't know what to tell you.

[jordanthoms]

Actually, all your OS sensitivity setting will do is change the scaling of the mouse, if you want to actually change the DPI you need their software