[clobber]

I was more trashing the NSA's record because they ARE doing sinister shit.

We just don't know 100% if Google is being forced to play along. I'd say it's really naive to think there would be public 'evidence' in the first place. You say it's unfair but I say it's critical thinking. Given the circumstance and the history, I'd say it's completely fair.

Either way it's terrifying, wouldn't you agree?

[jholman]

I agree with almost all of this comment of yours (contrasted with the previous one). The NSA should be assumed to be invasive, we don't know how much Google is being forced to play along, there would be little or no public evidence. And critical thinking is good, especially given the circumstances and history.

Your previous comment said that "the likely thesis that Google has decided to ally itself with the US surveillance state" was "seem[ingly] fact at this point". That's a completely different statement, and I strongly disagree with it; I do not think that is Google's decision or allegiance, nor that it's established fact. I think the parent to your comment accused Google of malfeasance, and I think that is neither critical thinking nor fair.

Either way, I'm not personally terrified, but I do think it's worth awareness and resistance, on principle.