[np422]

I really envy you naive notion on Swedish legal security.

Take a look at our modern history. Confiscation of not yet published newspapers during world war II. The German troop transports, the extradition of Baltic citizens, the IB-matter, forced sterilization. We really have a history of throwing out all legal principles whenever public authorities want to.

In recent times, Thomas Quick, the extradition of two Egyptian citizen without any due process, REVA, perhaps you remember "#gategate" where LEO got acquitted, the "lilac envelopes" our minister of justice wanted to use spread shame to suspects, treatment of acquitted persons in the da Costa case.. I could go on for quite some time with this, there are a lot of examples to choose from.

Just the fact that we have politicians appointing jury members ("nämndemän") is a hint to where Swedish legal security stands. Jury members that in the majority of cases fails to answer basic legal questions correct. The entire chain of courts "förvaltningsrätt" is a very troublesome construction to say the least ...

[eli]

The US internment camps? Waterboarding? Gitmo?

I think it's often enough for a legal system that strives for perfection rather than one that is always perfect. I do not think the latter has ever existed.

[np422]

GWOT has been taken a few steps to far.

TSA and DHS are true examples how the terrorist actually have won, we now fear them so much we have changed our ways and our open/free society. We, as in the western / developed world.

And no matter how much I try I can't understand how we won over the Soviet block back in the days still keeping an open society. Back then we pointed fingers at them and called them the bad guys for massive surveillance of citizens. And yes, terror was a integral part of the cold war, red army faction etc ...