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by burntsushi 4820 days ago
> In that case, yeah, it's absolutely your fault.

No. It's not. It's the fault of the thief.

> Put it another way, if you lent your laptop to a friend, and they left it on the table like that and it was stolen, would you really find your friend blameless? Would you lend them a laptop again?

I wouldn't lend it to them again because they are careless and didn't take sensible precautions. I wouldn't find them at fault for the theft.
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pseut 4820 days ago
Maybe we disagree on what "fault" means; I think (and I'm pretty sure this is common usage) that if a person takes an action and a predictable bad outcome ensues, that person's at fault. It doesn't make him or her a bad person.

One last example: if you leave the laptop on an open windowsill and it falls out and breaks, is it now gravity's fault? If I throw it up in the air and fail to catch it, am I at fault, or is gravity? If I throw it and want the laptop to break so I don't catch it? Does it really depend on whether I want the laptop to break or not? What if I'm unsure of my motivations?

edit: I hope it's obvious, but multiple people can be "at fault" and the person who stole the bitcoins is more "at fault" than the victim here.

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burntsushi 4819 days ago
> edit: I hope it's obvious, but multiple people can be "at fault" and the person who stole the bitcoins is more "at fault" than the victim here.

Of course. The initial point I was trying to rebuke was

> what happened is your own fault entirely

Which isn't just a slip of the tongue. It's an explicit declaration that the blame is 100% on the victim.

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pseut 4819 days ago
>> what happened is your own fault entirely >Which isn't just a slip of the tongue. It's an explicit declaration that the blame is 100% on the victim.

Not my quote, and not even implicit in anything I've said here.

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