[electromagnetic]

Thanks for the point by point there, but you basically just confirmed my initial opinion that you really have no clue beyond your own media-infused bias of the situation.

I don't think we have to introduce your head to your ass, because I think they're well acquainted with each other.

Boo hoo, US evil, blah blah.

[coldtea]

>Thanks for the point by point there, but you basically just confirmed my initial opinion that you really have no clue beyond your own media-infused bias of the situation.

Ironic, coming from a citizen of the same country where 80% of the people believe in "miracles" ( http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1240075... ) and a large percentage cannot point their country on a map, much less a foreign country. Heck, it's the country the Presidents and political candidates are even know to do grave mistakes on international affairs, even confusing whole countries with others on camera.

>Boo hoo, US evil, blah blah.

I don't believe in "evil". I'm rational. US is just ruthlessly pursuing it's interests, and fuck everybody else (literally). Including fuck them with illegal and unethical means (from invading a sovereign country to drone murders). You can afford it when you are top dog. It's not like European colonial powers on their day behaved any better.

[electromagnetic]

No the irony here is you again completely proving my point by you assuming I'm American just by my "defending" them. I'm British, and I live in Canada. But again, your head has already met your own ass very intimately.

[ownagefool]

That's a complete non-answer, which is usually done by a person with the same issue you're accusing the parent of.

Trident is a sore point for the UK for several reasons:-

> It's not an independent nuclear deterrent, we're on a US leash even if we try to sell it otherwise.

> They're based in Scotland, a country within the UK which has fairly low support for nuclear weapons, which the primary elected party are dead against having them, going as far to make it a platform for the independence vote in 2014.

> We need to buy them and pay for upkeep. Theres talk of £100bn costs to renew the things, and I believe the lions share of that goes right back to the US.

I can't tell you whether or not it was subsidised, but I doubt it was when you get down to it and the comparison you are making isn't completely apt.

[arethuza]

The prospect of getting rid of Trident is the #1 reason why I'm going to vote for independence next year.

[ownagefool]

Having politics done at the local level by people who live in and are invested in Scotland is the #1 reason I'm going to vote for independence.

Not being a viable target for nukes is just the icing on the cake.

It's a shame all polls suggest we're rather content being ignored by the status quo though.

[arethuza]

I'm actually less concerned about Scotland being targeted than having any support for weapons that I regard as fundamentally immoral.