[themic86]

You make it sound like man's progression towards interdependence doesn't warrant some degree of socialized changed in areas that are clearly underperforming in the reign of "private enterprise". No one said change was going to be easy... or cheap. We brought this upon ourselves when we realized farming and gathering was easier than hunting and gathering.

[MaysonL]

Actually farming is harder than hunting: it's just that people/acre is much higher for farmers than hunters, and farmers, being tied to the land, are more easily governed, supporting expansionist governments which drive the hunter-gatherers out. But I agree: that was the turning point.

[themic86]

Yeah - the point isn't so much the ease of farming, rather it's necessity in order to increase the 'people / acre ' and the inherent interdependence of people as a result. we've been moving towards socialism since birth.