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by jimparkins 4828 days ago
Sounded great until I read that Fuduntu does not come with Apt or Deb and uses Yum/Rpm instead...

"Apt is not installed with Fuduntu. Yum (Yellowdog Package Manager) is the replacement. For more help on yum, "man yum" from a terminal, or google "yum howto"."

"The "debi" package installer is not included. Instead, the "rpm" command can be used to install .rpm packages. For more help on rpm, "man rpm" from a terminal, or search the internet for "rpm install howto"."
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trumbitta2 4828 days ago
I always had nightmarish experiences with rpm...

Last time I checked, circa 2006, the db got corrupted three times in 1.5 years and I had to dance the hell-dance in order to get a working system back...

[EDIT] And that's primarily why I love apt / dpkg

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INTPenis 4828 days ago
Speaking as a former Debian fanboy, current avid Debian/Ubuntu user, Yum isn't too bad. I was pleasantly surprised to see that it had rollbacks. And with 3rd party repos, you can get just as current, if not more current than Debian Sta(b)le, software.
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LukeShu 4828 days ago
I'm a fan of pacman, but find apt/dpkg acceptable (barely). My biggest two beefs with yum/rpm are that it does not track "explicitly installed" vs "installed as a dependency" (dpkg does, but it's fuzzy), and that when processing dependencies, it does a brute-force recursive crawl instead of building a tree.
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elehack 4828 days ago
Modern Yum does track explicit vs. dependency installs, though this is not very visible in the UI. There are ways to query the Yum database for it, though.

Yum also has an option (disabled by default) to remove unneeded auto-installed dependencies when removing packages (set clean_requirements_on_remove=yes in /etc/yum.conf)[1]. This option does not remove manually-installed packages (though the docs are not clear on this point, unfortunately).

1. http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/56056

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LukeShu 4826 days ago
That's good news! My latest experience was with CentOS and Fedora installs at my last job, but most of the installs there were a bit older.
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INTPenis 4828 days ago
Pacman is the Arch Linux standard right?

I was fond of Arch when I first heard of it, because back then I was still a BSD fanboy. But as time has progressed I find the use of rc a bit stale and I actually like the initiative of LSB.

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alex-g 4828 days ago
Arch has moved on to systemd these days, if that changes anything for you.
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