[pg]

I can remember thinking back then that Apple ought to get out of the hardware business. It might in fact have been the right move under any other CEO than Steve Jobs. He has beaten the Japanese at music players. How many other American CEOs could have done that?

[paul]

They did get out of the hardware business, kindof. Apple only does the design (and not all of it). The low margin stuff is handled by companies in Taiwan or China.

Apple seems to be the only device manufacturer that understands usability and is capable of producing ok software (microsoft is problem #2, amazingly).